tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558542206873530380.post7644607513991060845..comments2023-06-13T06:22:35.984-04:00Comments on <center>VOTES<br>Vote To Eliminate<br>Self-Serving Politicians</center>: The Essence of LeadershipSite Administratorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10875957529020130816noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558542206873530380.post-33404824479204072312007-01-22T19:08:00.000-05:002007-01-22T19:08:00.000-05:00"Anonymous" although probably quite a smart indivi..."Anonymous" although probably quite a smart individual, is mistaken about voter's ability to remove "useless" councillors under the ward vs general vote. He/she, although writing very intelligently, reflects the knowledge possessed by most voters on this complicated issue. In point of fact, it is far easier to target and remove a "useless councillor under ward voting. In Oshawa's general vote experience from the time Durham Region was formed to the 1985 election only one "general vote" incumbent was defeated at the polls. Perpetually top polling Local Councillor, Cy Elsey, ran regionally and defeated perpetually lowest polling regional council, John McLaughlin. All other change on council took place through death or resignation. So if citizens want the opportunity to remove useless politicians, they should support ward voting where electoral success depends upon service to the ward voters. Under the general vote, electoral success depends upon high name recognition and so "Job One" for general vote politicians is to grandstand, bitch and bicker fighting for press coverage. Because every general vote politician is also a "competitor" for votes with every other politician on the council, the entire council turns out to be very fractious and argumentative all at the expense of productive work for this city. When Oshawa got the ward vote in 1985, about half the general vote council was defeated under the ward vote. Also half of the general vote council lived in the city's ward 6 and 3 council members lived in one polling subdivision in ward 3 leaving most areas of the city without any representation on council.Site Administratorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10875957529020130816noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558542206873530380.post-85567131244480895882007-01-22T18:13:00.000-05:002007-01-22T18:13:00.000-05:00Of course Nicholson is against a general vote. He ...Of course Nicholson is against a general vote. He knows full well that without the protection afforded him by the ward system he would be out of a job on Council. The people have voted, Council has voted so lets get on with it. Next election should and will be a general election.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558542206873530380.post-79941429522950352602007-01-22T11:17:00.000-05:002007-01-22T11:17:00.000-05:00I read this same message on the other website abou...I read this same message on the other website about this issue.<br /><br />Why does the poster hide behind anonymity instead of posting his name? Is the poster a member of Council or one of their election workers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5558542206873530380.post-56856820678482842982007-01-22T07:15:00.000-05:002007-01-22T07:15:00.000-05:00The fact that some councillors have very little su...The fact that some councillors have very little support within their wards as evidenced by the election results and absolutley no support or respect outside their ward leads me to believe that some who try to stop a general vote possibly may have a conflict of interest. It may be and hopefully will be the end to the political careers of some of the more useless self serving politicians on Council.<br /><br />If Councillors did not want to abolish the Ward system they should not have asked the question.<br /><br />Remember, be careful what you ask for! You may just get it.<br /><br />To keep with the City motto. "Prepare to be amazed". Living in Oshawa not a day goes by when I am not amazed by the antics of our Councillors.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com